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Skylarking
In this interview Shekhar talks about his last conversation with Heath, Four Feathers and Heath.


http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/...ipt/#cnnSTCText
Phyllis
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Heath was one of the most optimistic people I ever knew. He was always on to something, he was always looking forward to tomorrow. I just wish I had insisted on seeing him that evening. If I had said, "No, just come and see me," he would have.


I'm so glad someone used the word optimistic.

Heath was optimistic.

I've been desperately struggling to find my way back to the Heath I felt before he left. I'm so grateful to Shekhar for reminding us . . . for reminding me, of that.
springrose
Thank you so much for posting this. I didn't get around to watching it- at least I now know what Shekhar said.

Shekhar is such a beautiful soul, too. The Four Feathers was profound but the world wasn't yet ready to appreciate it. It will happen when the time is right...

I really think all kindred souls will one day meet 'beyond' and celebrate. I sincerely believe that Heath can feel all of our love for him. Every time you feel sad, imagine him feeling the intense love of millions of souls all at once. My excruciating pain has turned into overwhelming love and appreciation. If you chose to focus on what Heath has given us rather than what we have lost, it all feels so much better. I will always think of him and endeavour to honour him every which way I can think of for the rest of my days.
ruth
I wish I could share Shekhar's philosophy that Heath leaving us was Fate, destiny. But I can't. I've thought about it a lot, looking for something that can be interpreted as a silver lining, and there is none. The world felt horribly wrong the day it happened, and everything still feels wrong, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Still, Shekhar knew Heath very well and if he can see Fate's hand in this, then OK, but...sigh.
BrooklynBabe
Different philosophies about death. I think we all look for a reason as to why Heath was taken away so young and in the middle of his long leggy strides to get to where he was going and to do the most that he could. In coping with all of this I just have imagined that Heath's soul was in shock as he realized he had died. But I just have to believe that God placed him here for us for a short time for a reason that is beyond us. I believe Heath's spirit is in very good hands.
I imagine that Shekhar Kapur has to deal with the "what if's" from now on. HE's got to think and believe that there was nothing he really could have done....because this was Heath's fate.

On another note...springrose..your sig that says Be the Flame not the Moth. While watching Casanova (again) the other night..I repeated that line, smiling. Heath was certainly the Flame.
Skylarking
I belived that all of us have yet decide how many time we will spend in earth, we all have a purpose when we get born, i truly believed that Heath fulfill his purpose in live. I think it was fate, like Shekhar say, he can try to convince him to go and see him, but this was the time for Heath to leave this place, and nobody can avoid it.

I believe Heath was fine right now, happy and most important, finally find rest. That's is the most importan thing here. I belived his soul was and old soul, and need to rest. This is shooking for all of us because the way he pass away, and because of his 28 years. But it was exactly wath God had plan.

Like the poem i post before: "What is this death but an unimportant accident?
Did I have to disappear of the thought
because I have disappeared from view?"

He will be waiting for all of us. He still here in our hearths and thoughts. It's hard because we can see him, but we can hold he's memory in our hearts.

Phyllis
QUOTE(ruth @ Mar 25 2008, 12:08 AM) *

I wish I could share Shekhar's philosophy that Heath leaving us was Fate, destiny. But I can't. I've thought about it a lot, looking for something that can be interpreted as a silver lining, and there is none. The world felt horribly wrong the day it happened, and everything still feels wrong, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Still, Shekhar knew Heath very well and if he can see Fate's hand in this, then OK, but...sigh.

Ruth, I'm right there with you. It's not going to ever be right again for me, either. I'm slowing coming to the point of acceptance, and may soon be able to remember Heath with joy. But it'll still never be the same.

QUOTE(BrooklynBabe @ Mar 25 2008, 05:58 AM) *

I imagine that Shekhar Kapur has to deal with the "what if's" from now on. HE's got to think and believe that there was nothing he really could have done....because this was Heath's fate.

I think that you're right in this. Although I'm not sure you mean it the way I take it. Yes, Shekhar HAS to believe that it was Heath's fate. It's the only way he can cope. Because in the back of his mind, he kinda wonders if he had said, "come see me now." if it would have changed things.

It probably would have.

But everytime we make any decision, we cannot know what the effect will be. Shekhar's decision to not insist that Heath visit him that night, to let Heath retire early and get rest, it was a decision made out of love and concern for his friend. He could not have known the consequences.
ledger lover
Thank you so much for posting this , we 'll never forget u heath ,
He will be waiting for all of us.
He still here in our hearths and thoughts
i know how much heath was tired cuz he couldn't sleep well unfortunatly it's fate
Angie
Talking about destiny..........
almost 12 years ago my best girlfriend lost her little girl, only 2 1/2 years old. I was at here home whenever I could, we would talk, laugh, cry, eat.....everything.....
Only that day 4th June 1996, I cancelled. I was about to go to her and I changed my mind (that's something I never do or I have to be sick). If I would have gone over, I think this never would have happened.
Her sister was about to come over, but she was tired and was planning to go later (which she also normally didn't, she would just go how tired she would be). But my friend was talking to her neighbour outside and the little girl sneaked out (it really happend in 10 seconds) and 2 hours later found in the water near the house. I was pretty shaken up from this (not to speak of my best friend of cours who lost her daughter), also because I was 4 months pregnant at the time. what also was strange is when we went to say goodbye, the girl had still pink cheekbones, which normally never happens (the people at the cemetary couldn't explain this). her big brother has seen her a lot after she died sitting in trees, teasing him, climbing in the kitchen trying to get candy.................

So when Shekhar was about to call Heath, he postponed, which he would normally never do, but this time he did. I just think it had to happen and we couldn't prevent it......................I know if one of us could, they would have done it. I would.......but I think it was inevitable...........snif
springrose
I agree with you Angie. What we perceive to be an accident, probably isn't. My stepdaughter was hit by a car in front of her school when she was six years old. We had three other children at the time (one of them my biological daughter) who went to the same school. I'd usually pick up my daughter from the school but she'd catch the bus if I didn't come to pick her up and the others would get picked up by their mum. That fateful day their mother was late because of some birthday shopping for her best friend's daughter, for whom a party was planned at a house across from the school. That day I was held up at work and my daughter caught the bus. That day two of the kids decided to walk across to the party and one little girl wanted to come, too. She half-crossed the road, her brother realised it was dangerous and told her to stay back. The driver who thought the girl was out of her way sped up, not realising the girl would turn around... As you can see, there were a lot of people who felt responsible and still suffer. I think these things happen for a reason... I think we have to learn to forgive ourselves. Everyone's intentions were good and that's what matters.
Angie
Wauw, that's also heavy! Sometimes when things come on your path that you normally don't do, like the mum late because she was birthday shopping, you who were not there. Things who will normally not happen, the man who's driving there suddenly. I do think it was unavoidable, it's very hard, especially when children are involved.........that's really heartbreaking............they can have such a bright future and that's taken away in a blink. Like Heath, I think he 's amazing, but I think if he would be alive, he was going to be one of the Giants in the filmindustry.........but probably not a part of the Plan!!! (on Earth)
Some people will think differently, but that's also beautiful about it, we are all different souls with our own opinion. as long as we can live happily and peacefully together..................
Skylarking
QUOTE(Angie @ Mar 27 2008, 08:52 AM) *

Like Heath, I think he 's amazing, but I think if he would be alive, he was going to be one of the Giants in the filmindustry.........but probably not a part of the Plan!!! (on Earth)
Some people will think differently, but that's also beautiful about it, we are all different souls with our own opinion. as long as we can live happily and peacefully together..................



You are right, i belive in God's Plans, i belive that God have plans for every one, whe have time on earth and when we have finish our purpose in life, our time it's up. So no one can change it, that's God's Plans and no one can change our father's plans.

So, i can give a advise to everyone, including my self, we didn't know when we are going to leave this place, so we need to make the different, and live the live best as posible, try to make the good and live in the right way.
springrose
QUOTE
You are right, i belive in God's Plans, i belive that God have plans for every one, whe have time on earth and when we have finish our purpose in life, our time it's up. So no one can change it, that's God's Plans and no one can change our father's plans.

So, i can give a advise to everyone, including my self, we didn't know when we are going to leave this place, so we need to make the different, and live the live best as posible, try to make the good and live in the right way.


Hi Skylarking

I don't think we're powerless creatures not being able to influence our destiny but I do believe that we create a lot of 'plots' and 'plans' with other souls for various reasons before we're born and then live those out on Earth (not being consciously aware of what we've created for ourselves but often instinctively sensing what's going to happen). Does that sound too far-stretched to you? Do you think it's a possibility?
Skylarking
QUOTE(springrose @ Mar 31 2008, 10:59 AM) *

Hi Skylarking

I don't think we're powerless creatures not being able to influence our destiny but I do believe that we create a lot of 'plots' and 'plans' with other souls for various reasons before we're born and then live those out on Earth (not being consciously aware of what we've created for ourselves but often instinctively sensing what's going to happen). Does that sound too far-stretched to you? Do you think it's a possibility?


Hi Springrose:

Don't take it bad. I belive in free will, that's the beuty of Jesus's love, we all have a free will, we can do things and decide what we want to do, but at the ends of our live we wil fulfill God's plans it's our desition if we want to do it hard or in a easy way. Somtimes we us to take the hard road in live, that's our decition, but at the end we realice that we are doing the exact things God have for us. Yes we can change things, we can influence our destiny, but we can change it at all.
Angie
I want to make a little comment on this. In my life I've also experienced things that were about to happen and I knew it before they took place? How is that possible. I always took it and I was never afraid of it. The more I'm open for spirituality, the more these things happen. Sometimes when life's a b....., you're in a negative spiral and only bad things happen, you can hang your head down and put your spiritual thoughts next to you. You will stay in this negative circle and you can't find the good things even if they're right under your nose!

But if you put your shoulders on it, I think we can move mountains if we want to. Positivity and spirituality can you further.......................and we are for sure able to change things. We all have a destiny (that's what I believe) and how we get there is up to us..................


But I'm still crying when I see photo's of Heath, watching his movies or watching an interview or anything about him. The pain is still here, but I'm trying to believe he is in a good place right now and he know's how everybody 's hurting by his spirit not being on Earth.............
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